Curse

DarkGanni · Feb 14, 2008, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

What about 5 heroes?

Full team in 6man area, ability to form Urgoz team with only two players

Didn't bother to go through all the 33 page talk but as soon as i see this ^ I smiled

/signed

Splitisoda · Feb 14, 2008, 11:53 AM // 11:53

I /sign for 7 heroes. Think about the great builds you can come up with, besides, I wan't to see ANYONE pug AND win Gate of Madness.

The negative sides to heroes is, that the human is the only one who can use pve skills. That's why it wouldn't be bad, because then you wouldn't see easy 6 hero ursan groups.

Balan Makki · Feb 14, 2008, 11:55 AM // 11:55

For Hardmode yes, I would like having 7 heroes. Mostly, I only get to play the game in short spells. This would help casual players like me who aren't on long enough find or organize a group. As well, I'm constantly needing to give my family attention (AFKing) while gaming, so grouping, once again, is out of the question most of the time--I only get to group around 10%-20% of my game time.

I do like grouping, and good company. Unfortunately, my life is a bit to busy to afford this luxury.

T1Cybernetic · Feb 14, 2008, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by Balan Makki

For Hardmode yes, I would like having 7 heroes. Mostly, I only get to play the game in short spells. This would help casual players like me who aren't on long enough find or organize a group. As well, I'm constantly needing to give my family attention (AFKing) while gaming, so grouping, once again, is out of the question most of the time--I only get to group around 10%-20% of my game time.

I do like grouping, and good company. Unfortunately, my life is a bit to busy to afford this luxury.

Im with you on that

people dont really like it when you have to go afk cos one of the kids dropped a glass of milk on the cat etc so a full hero team would be pretty good to have around at times.

Lishy · Feb 14, 2008, 12:04 PM // 12:04

More heroes in the team would be nice, but Anet already said no.
...Maybe for GW2.

/halfsigned.

Balan Makki · Feb 14, 2008, 12:23 PM // 12:23

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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

Im with you on that

people dont really like it when you have to go afk cos one of the kids dropped a glass of milk on the cat etc so a full hero team would be pretty good to have around at times.

Gaming should be as accessible as watching TV, even more so. Regardless whether it's single-player or MMO.

GW1 is the first online game that tends towards this convenience. This appears to be an Arena Net market strategy. Having greater access is always a good thing.

I'd even be willing to buy a second account for a full Hero feature.

If Arena Net does something like this they should at least make money by it.

Pleikki · Feb 14, 2008, 12:30 PM // 12:30

I would like play with 7 heroes tbh it would be too easy

even with 3 heroes its easy.. some challenge guys imo! its fun do some areas just With henchs

Like thk with bonus its amazing fun

nah my opinion is From 3 to 1 hero WTF!

Gun Pierson · Feb 14, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

I would like play with 7 heroes tbh it would be too easy

even with 3 heroes its easy.. some challenge guys imo! its fun do some areas just With henchs

Like thk with bonus its amazing fun

nah my opinion is From 3 to 1 hero WTF!

It can never be that easy as with 6 ursan + 2 monks

On a more serious note...After the revival of this thread for the xx time and after reading some new posts, I can only conclude that the first valid argument why not to have 7 heroes is still to be found.

I did read every post in this thread like many others as 'arcanacabre' etc. I should have made a list last months keeping track of all the arguments and counterarguments, but I didn't. It's all in here though if you have a few days spare time.

It would be nice to get some more feedback from arenanet on this, but who'm I kidding.
They should make both sides happy. Give people the use of 7 heroes and in the meantime install a pug district like we have 'america', international' etc where people who like to pug find eachother easely. Possibly giving pug groups in the pug district a small bonus or more gold drops or something when they play. Just an idea.

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 14, 2008, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Lol Melon that number 2 you said was funny. Ain't gonna be any 7 heroes though...Anet is showing they want to move away from AI play and more into group play as GW2 information is coming out. You have enough heroes with 3 and 4 henchies.

Are they too blind to realize that we will either play with AI, or quit the game rather than do PUGs?

Aera Lure · Feb 14, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Are they too blind to realize that we will either play with AI, or quit the game rather than do PUGs?

No, because it wasnt always that way. Heroes made it that way. If anything, they should remove them altogether.

odly · Feb 14, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

More heroes in the team would be nice, but Anet already said no.
...Maybe for GW2.

/halfsigned.

I'm afraid I have to disapoint you. There won't be any heroes in GW2.

Kos Luftar · Feb 14, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12

The only reason why anyone would want more heros is because they are having a hard time with some parts of the game.
PVE is funny easy if you just spend some time setting up the 3 heros.

/not signed (lern to play the game better and stop whinning)

Dwimmerlaik · Feb 14, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

7 flags scares me =/

Gun Pierson · Feb 14, 2008, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by Kos Luftar

The only reason why anyone would want more heros is because they are having a hard time with some parts of the game.
PVE is funny easy if you just spend some time setting up the 3 heros.

/not signed (lern to play the game better and stop whinning)

Two things...first of all, the main reason why people want 7 heroes is basically to have more fun, teambuilds etc. Secondly, PVE might be funny easy to you, but not to others or that argument is just subjective and only makes your epeen bigger. We passed this some pages ago and it was wiped away.

Next time, if you want to contribute at a serieus level, I suggest you know at least the basic things that's been said in this topic before talking out of the ass.

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Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaik

7 flags scares me =/

That's a valid reason

Paloma Song · Feb 14, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Anet will change their minds eventually, as the game continues to decline, and allow 7 heroes as they should've all along. No doubt sometime after most of us have long since quit.

Uber Mass · Feb 14, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

No thnx PvE is easy enough as it is

Zamochit · Feb 14, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

They would have to totally change the current flagging system, and I dont want to imagine what would happen in HoH if seven heros were implemented....

Shadowmere · Feb 14, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

While it would be very nice (especially considering we have, what, 16 heroes now?) I can see the reasons for it not being allowed, maybe for hard mode only?

Really though, I've disliked having to equip heroes since the beginning, I made 1 character why do I suddenly have to be equipping 10 other ones?!?

pygar · Feb 14, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by odly

I'm afraid I have to disapoint you. There won't be any heroes in GW2.

And this will be the reason there will still be many people playing GW1 instead of buying GW2.

Myself, I am on the fence on this issue.... I just beat the Gate of Madness with Heroes and Henchies (with Master bonus no less) , so not like I need the extra heroes to get by. I would of course like the extra heroes over the Henchies because it gives you more options, and I like to outfit them and tweak their builds (I get to learn about other classes and their skills w/out making new characters that way)

I understand the plight of people who prefer to play the game with groups, but have a hard time finding them- but myself I absolutely hate PUGs, the only good thing I have to say about the few times I did join a group was seeing that group fail usually showed me exactly what I needed to do so that I could go back and beat the mission on the next try with my H&H team.

I am sad to hear that they are moving away from Heroes and Henchies in GW2, I think that is a mistake. I'l wait and see before I "pass sentence" on GW2- but if I have to play with PUGs, and my bad experiences with PUGs dont change that will kill a lot of the games fun for me. (sorry to the people who like to play in groups, and even think the rest of us should be forced to play in groups, but theres a whole list of things that really suck about PUGs that deserves a thread all of it's own) Long story short- giving people options always wins over not giving people options.

Viruzzz · Feb 14, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by Isileth

I have to disagree with your reason against. Its no different than 8 players doing it. Having 7 heroes wouldnt suddenly unlock an ultimate build. Anything that can be done with heroes can be done better (assuming a decent level of player skill) by a player.

I know 1 thing a player can't do better than a Hero.
Wait for 8 hours while I sleep, and then be ready to go the SECOND i return!